Like truly horrible and there’s no good way to justify this. But I’m asked if I’m a terrorist or invovled with crime every time I sign up for a bank account. Could we do something about that as well.
What would happens if I said yes? Who would?
This is the way.
“[…] the facility said it will continue to ask guests with military-related backgrounds to sign the pledge, based on its philosophy of not tolerating war crimes.”
A quick look at the article shows this lodging was not targeting the Israeli, this is a a practice of the business.
Also if you think you’re being discriminated against because you’re being asked if you’ve ever committed war crimes I think self reflection is in order. I would not feel safe knowing I was lodging near a war criminal, regardless of where they’re from.
Based
I mean, it’s not super common in Japan but isn’t this common practice in travel?
If I apply for a UK or European visa I have to check a box saying “I’m not a terrrorist and I haven’t committed war crimes based on so and so laws.” Even the US one has a question “Have you ever committed a genocide” and that one’s aimed at everyone, including civilians.
Just yesterday I had to sign a pledge that I was not sending money to terrorist organizations from my Yuucho bank account.
If this applies to all military guests regardless of nationality, why in the world would you feel offended or think twice about signing…
W
So it is inconceivable to ask someone who has served for 10 years in the military of a country that is actively committing war crimes, if they have ever committed warcrimes?
If you are a country not commiting warcrimes, why should this offend you, when the question is asked for a lot of other countries as well (including palestine)? If it does offend you, what might that mean?
If he served in the IDF, he probably did.
I mean, it’s a reasonable question given the circumstances
So no Japanese grandpas can stay here? Cause we know most of them who served def committed war crimes. The irony of a country that only 80 years earlier that committed some of the worst war crimes on this planet is now waving its finger. How hypocritical.
A huge W
If this is a routine question and only the Israeli got offended then maybe he’s got something to share with the class.
If I’m asked if I’ve done war crimes, my pro strategy is to say “no” and move on with my day since I’ve not done any war crimes, but I can see why someone who was in the IDF for 10 years might struggle with this.
It kind of scares me how global culture is moving towards just gaslighting everyone at all times. This headline alone is so “what are you *suggesting*?” Well firstly, we’re asking a non-compulsory question of our military guests, so *literally that*. Secondly, Israel is committing war crimes, I’m not *suggesting* shit.
These are easy questions. Very easy in fact.
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*”After being contacted by the prefectural government, the Kyoto city government conducted an interview with the guesthouse.*
*The city determined that* ***signing the pledge is voluntary*** *and* ***does not violate the Hotel Business Law****, which prohibits the refusal to accommodate guests except under certain circumstances.*
*However, the city told the guesthouse that* ***some people may feel*** *it is discriminatory and inappropriate.*
*Subsequently, in early May, the embassy sent a letter to Kyoto Mayor Koji Matsui,* ***requesting a reinvestigation*** *and* ***appropriate measures*** *be taken.*
*In the letter, Cohen stated that the guesthouse’s action is i****nconsistent with the spirit of Japan’s “omotenashi” hospitality****, demanding the city take necessary measures to prevent it from happening again.* ”
…
“*The manager said that even if guests refuse to sign the pledge,* ***the facility will not refuse to accommodate*** *them, and that it has never had anyone refuse to sign it, and that* ***it has never refused to accommodate their guests****.*”
…
“*In June 2024, the Kyoto city government issued administrative guidance to the management company of a hotel in Kyoto’s Higashiyama Ward for violating the Hotel Business Law* ***after the facility refused to accommodate*** *an Israeli man because he might belong to the Israeli military.*”
So:
(1) legally not an issue, as in this case accommodation was not refused and would not be refused anyway, while in the case accommodation was refused.
(2) the embassy…did not like the answer and asks “*reinvestigation*”, despite no law having been violated in the first place and calls for “*appropriate measures*” to be taken, such as…?
(3) the embassy seem to think it violates the “*spirit of hospitality*” making it sound like these guy fail to understand there may be a difference between a “*tourism/commercial slogan*” and the *reality* of the product?
Much ado about nothing.
It’s pointless and merely virtue signaling. No terrorist or anyone who has committed a war crime is going to check “yes”…
It’s a valid concern. I wouldn’t want to serve war criminals either.
Would a true war criminal be likely to respond ‘yes?’ I mean what is the purpose of this question?
Americans dont’t know the U.S. is the only country that blindly supports Israel.
It’s a fair question to ask any Israeli citizen!
The Japanese have this principle which is something they seem to idolize for some reason… i think they call it integrity or something, i dunno, it’s not a very common concept in the USA…
Did he?
Oh the Irony!
I mean US border patrols are asking Americans what their thoughts are on trump when RETURNING to America………
Do they ask this of their elderly Japanese guests as well? The ones who potentially could have been members of Unit 731
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Like truly horrible and there’s no good way to justify this. But I’m asked if I’m a terrorist or invovled with crime every time I sign up for a bank account. Could we do something about that as well.
What would happens if I said yes? Who would?
This is the way.
“[…] the facility said it will continue to ask guests with military-related backgrounds to sign the pledge, based on its philosophy of not tolerating war crimes.”
A quick look at the article shows this lodging was not targeting the Israeli, this is a a practice of the business.
Also if you think you’re being discriminated against because you’re being asked if you’ve ever committed war crimes I think self reflection is in order. I would not feel safe knowing I was lodging near a war criminal, regardless of where they’re from.
Based
I mean, it’s not super common in Japan but isn’t this common practice in travel?
If I apply for a UK or European visa I have to check a box saying “I’m not a terrrorist and I haven’t committed war crimes based on so and so laws.” Even the US one has a question “Have you ever committed a genocide” and that one’s aimed at everyone, including civilians.
Just yesterday I had to sign a pledge that I was not sending money to terrorist organizations from my Yuucho bank account.
If this applies to all military guests regardless of nationality, why in the world would you feel offended or think twice about signing…
W
So it is inconceivable to ask someone who has served for 10 years in the military of a country that is actively committing war crimes, if they have ever committed warcrimes?
If you are a country not commiting warcrimes, why should this offend you, when the question is asked for a lot of other countries as well (including palestine)? If it does offend you, what might that mean?
If he served in the IDF, he probably did.
I mean, it’s a reasonable question given the circumstances
So no Japanese grandpas can stay here? Cause we know most of them who served def committed war crimes. The irony of a country that only 80 years earlier that committed some of the worst war crimes on this planet is now waving its finger. How hypocritical.
A huge W
If this is a routine question and only the Israeli got offended then maybe he’s got something to share with the class.
If I’m asked if I’ve done war crimes, my pro strategy is to say “no” and move on with my day since I’ve not done any war crimes, but I can see why someone who was in the IDF for 10 years might struggle with this.
It kind of scares me how global culture is moving towards just gaslighting everyone at all times. This headline alone is so “what are you *suggesting*?” Well firstly, we’re asking a non-compulsory question of our military guests, so *literally that*. Secondly, Israel is committing war crimes, I’m not *suggesting* shit.
These are easy questions. Very easy in fact.
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Not sure where to start?
…
*”After being contacted by the prefectural government, the Kyoto city government conducted an interview with the guesthouse.*
*The city determined that* ***signing the pledge is voluntary*** *and* ***does not violate the Hotel Business Law****, which prohibits the refusal to accommodate guests except under certain circumstances.*
*However, the city told the guesthouse that* ***some people may feel*** *it is discriminatory and inappropriate.*
*Subsequently, in early May, the embassy sent a letter to Kyoto Mayor Koji Matsui,* ***requesting a reinvestigation*** *and* ***appropriate measures*** *be taken.*
*In the letter, Cohen stated that the guesthouse’s action is i****nconsistent with the spirit of Japan’s “omotenashi” hospitality****, demanding the city take necessary measures to prevent it from happening again.* ”
…
“*The manager said that even if guests refuse to sign the pledge,* ***the facility will not refuse to accommodate*** *them, and that it has never had anyone refuse to sign it, and that* ***it has never refused to accommodate their guests****.*”
…
“*In June 2024, the Kyoto city government issued administrative guidance to the management company of a hotel in Kyoto’s Higashiyama Ward for violating the Hotel Business Law* ***after the facility refused to accommodate*** *an Israeli man because he might belong to the Israeli military.*”
So:
(1) legally not an issue, as in this case accommodation was not refused and would not be refused anyway, while in the case accommodation was refused.
(2) the embassy…did not like the answer and asks “*reinvestigation*”, despite no law having been violated in the first place and calls for “*appropriate measures*” to be taken, such as…?
(3) the embassy seem to think it violates the “*spirit of hospitality*” making it sound like these guy fail to understand there may be a difference between a “*tourism/commercial slogan*” and the *reality* of the product?
Much ado about nothing.
It’s pointless and merely virtue signaling. No terrorist or anyone who has committed a war crime is going to check “yes”…
It’s a valid concern. I wouldn’t want to serve war criminals either.
Would a true war criminal be likely to respond ‘yes?’ I mean what is the purpose of this question?
Americans dont’t know the U.S. is the only country that blindly supports Israel.
It’s a fair question to ask any Israeli citizen!
The Japanese have this principle which is something they seem to idolize for some reason… i think they call it integrity or something, i dunno, it’s not a very common concept in the USA…
Did he?
Oh the Irony!
I mean US border patrols are asking Americans what their thoughts are on trump when RETURNING to America………
Do they ask this of their elderly Japanese guests as well? The ones who potentially could have been members of Unit 731