“I destroyed any documents they could twist into accusations—not because I was guilty, but because I knew their malice.”
Yeah I don’t really trust either side of this dispute. One thing I can’t get behind though is the level of simping a lot of foreigners in Japan (usually leaning to the right) do when it comes to Ghosn.
His main defense was “other people do it” until his lawyers also came up with “the Japanese judicial system is crooked.”
When asked why he paid for his daughter’s wedding using Nissan company funds, his response was literally “You can’t expect us to live like the poor.”
He had shell companies for shell companies for shell companies and moved money between France, Lebanon, the US, and money laundering havens like the Cayman islands.
While the detectives were uncovering the extent of his network of financial crimes, the judge considered him a flight risk and worried that he may tamper with the evidence being collected. That’s why he was held.
They begged him to be let out on humanitarian grounds.
The judge relented, but Ghosn went on to destroy evidence and run off to hide in Lebanon, exactly what the judge feared.
Well Ghosn, both can be true. You can be a corrupt car company head and have a bad justice system. But dude fled inside a suitcase, so we’ll probably never get all the facts.
I don’t trust both side
However the situation is :
When he was there, Nissan was doing great
After he left, they can’t even afford to stay in their building, about to explode and many people lost or will lose their jobs
So I don’t care what he did or not, him out was a huge loss and many employees suffers
Ghosn is a convicted criminal on the run but he’s not cool
Japan is one of the safest places in the world. The only thing Ghosn is running away from is a Milano sandwich.
He is a vile corrupted rich oligarch.
Even interviewing him is a disgrace.
I don’t like him, but he is still totally correct
Highly Corrupt Lebanese who wrecked an automobile company talking about Japanese corruption! Bwahahahahaha (nothing to do with Lebanese before someone comes out with cufgels).
Every country has its corrupt aspects. Japan, France, and the United States included. But just because part of it is corrupt doesn’t mean the wrongdoing is nullified. The fact that the U.S. has severe racism doesn’t mean anything goes, and the fact that Japan is xenophobic doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want.
People complain about the fact that Ghosn was re-arrested each time new charges were levied against him and while it might be cruel if the person is innocent this is the same process across the board for anyone charged in a criminal case and happens to Japanese people all the time.
However this tactic is to deny suspects the opportunity to flee and he is a perfect example of why prosecutors would rather him be locked up rather than be allowed to go home. He abused that privilege because the judge didn’t think that someone as high profile as him would resort to such a wild and desperate tactic to evade justice.
Furthermore Ghosn has had criminal investigations in countries like Lebanon, France and Brazil where he was accused of laundering money into shell companies that enriched his family and relatives.
Ghosn had no chance of getting a fair trial, that much is true. The Japanese managers who set him up succeeded in driving Nissan to the brink of bankruptcy again once Ghosn was gone. Japan lacks a legitimate system of justice.
say what you want about the guy, he has an amazing life story and his escape was a great way to cap it
The guy is probably a crook and I have no sympathy for him, but he is 100% right about Japan’s hostage justice system.
Suspects can be detained for up to 23 days without being formally charged, interrogations take place without a lawyer present, and prosecutors can re-arrest suspects on new charges to restart the detention clock. Bail is withheld until the accused confesses, and the conviction rate is over 99%, largely because criminal trials are a total charade and cases that are not guaranteed to succeed are never brought to court.
It is a criminal justice system with authoritarian features that many consider unconstitutional, upheld by a subservient judiciary. It has no place in a modern liberal democracy and is a stain on the country’s reputation. Even crooks like him deserve a fair trial and due process.
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“I destroyed any documents they could twist into accusations—not because I was guilty, but because I knew their malice.”
Yeah I don’t really trust either side of this dispute. One thing I can’t get behind though is the level of simping a lot of foreigners in Japan (usually leaning to the right) do when it comes to Ghosn.
His main defense was “other people do it” until his lawyers also came up with “the Japanese judicial system is crooked.”
When asked why he paid for his daughter’s wedding using Nissan company funds, his response was literally “You can’t expect us to live like the poor.”
He had shell companies for shell companies for shell companies and moved money between France, Lebanon, the US, and money laundering havens like the Cayman islands.
While the detectives were uncovering the extent of his network of financial crimes, the judge considered him a flight risk and worried that he may tamper with the evidence being collected. That’s why he was held.
They begged him to be let out on humanitarian grounds.
The judge relented, but Ghosn went on to destroy evidence and run off to hide in Lebanon, exactly what the judge feared.
Well Ghosn, both can be true. You can be a corrupt car company head and have a bad justice system. But dude fled inside a suitcase, so we’ll probably never get all the facts.
I don’t trust both side
However the situation is :
When he was there, Nissan was doing great
After he left, they can’t even afford to stay in their building, about to explode and many people lost or will lose their jobs
So I don’t care what he did or not, him out was a huge loss and many employees suffers
Ghosn is a convicted criminal on the run but he’s not cool
Japan is one of the safest places in the world. The only thing Ghosn is running away from is a Milano sandwich.
He is a vile corrupted rich oligarch.
Even interviewing him is a disgrace.
I don’t like him, but he is still totally correct
Highly Corrupt Lebanese who wrecked an automobile company talking about Japanese corruption! Bwahahahahaha (nothing to do with Lebanese before someone comes out with cufgels).
Every country has its corrupt aspects. Japan, France, and the United States included. But just because part of it is corrupt doesn’t mean the wrongdoing is nullified. The fact that the U.S. has severe racism doesn’t mean anything goes, and the fact that Japan is xenophobic doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want.
People complain about the fact that Ghosn was re-arrested each time new charges were levied against him and while it might be cruel if the person is innocent this is the same process across the board for anyone charged in a criminal case and happens to Japanese people all the time.
However this tactic is to deny suspects the opportunity to flee and he is a perfect example of why prosecutors would rather him be locked up rather than be allowed to go home. He abused that privilege because the judge didn’t think that someone as high profile as him would resort to such a wild and desperate tactic to evade justice.
Furthermore Ghosn has had criminal investigations in countries like Lebanon, France and Brazil where he was accused of laundering money into shell companies that enriched his family and relatives.
[https://www.twentyessex.com/british-virgin-islands-court-upholds-nissans-fraud-claims-against-carlos-ghosn/](https://www.twentyessex.com/british-virgin-islands-court-upholds-nissans-fraud-claims-against-carlos-ghosn/)
Ghosn had no chance of getting a fair trial, that much is true. The Japanese managers who set him up succeeded in driving Nissan to the brink of bankruptcy again once Ghosn was gone. Japan lacks a legitimate system of justice.
say what you want about the guy, he has an amazing life story and his escape was a great way to cap it
The guy is probably a crook and I have no sympathy for him, but he is 100% right about Japan’s hostage justice system.
Suspects can be detained for up to 23 days without being formally charged, interrogations take place without a lawyer present, and prosecutors can re-arrest suspects on new charges to restart the detention clock. Bail is withheld until the accused confesses, and the conviction rate is over 99%, largely because criminal trials are a total charade and cases that are not guaranteed to succeed are never brought to court.
It is a criminal justice system with authoritarian features that many consider unconstitutional, upheld by a subservient judiciary. It has no place in a modern liberal democracy and is a stain on the country’s reputation. Even crooks like him deserve a fair trial and due process.