are there any apps for learning japanese without ai..

I feel like recently every app I've tried for learning Japanese uses ai. I'm specifically looking for an app that allows you to practice speaking (not HelloTalk please) because thats the area I lack in the most. I like the concept of PingoAi and I want to find an android app that lets you have conversations without ai and without having to pay money. The app I used for this previously doesnt exist on the app store anymore. 🫩