Kind of surprised the Japanese Ambassador decided it was a good idea to make this into an international news story instead of just ignoring it and hoping it would blow over.
can’t believe the audacity.Β
Why can’t Japanese ambassadors and politicians stop getting in their own way… There’s a reason China and Korea hate Japan, whereas France and England don’t hate Germany.
Just fucking admit the bad shit and move on, it’s literally better for everyone
Its time to give them some surprise now
Wow they’re really that stupid
Maybe should learn some history and diplomacy
Theyβre taking strategies from Trump!
And absolutely no one in the rest of Asia is surprised at this response
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Do it. Build the statue. Japan needs to get over it and accept the history they created.
Has there ever been any high ranking politician in Japan that has proposed the idea of owning up to their past? Like be sincere and try make international relations with affected Asian countries better?
Also does general public even care about such things at all or are too busy with their daily life? If they don’t care much at all then idk why the government is always so insincere like who are they even trying to please? Some small percentage of elderly who are stuck in the past?
In the 1965 settlement the Japanese government proposed that they DIRECTLY compensate individuals for the harm they inflicted during the occupation.
However the South Korean government countered by stating that they would handle dispersing the funds. The Japanese government then paid $500M in funds and soft loans. The text of the agreement stated that this was a full and final settlement of all compensation claims.
The South Korean government then used it for various projects of national importance with NO money going to individuals. The confidentiality clause also meant that Japan couldn’t highlight the fact that compensation intended for individuals had been paid but not dispersed.
A release of diplomatic docs in 2005 revealed that the South Korean government had misled their own people on the issue. Had South Korean victims received compensation in 1965, how much of this issue would still be bubbling away?
I love the Japanese people, their culture, almost all of their history, but fucking hell they need to face up to the reality of their actions during the ShΕwa Period in World War II.
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Ehhh-
Should have shut his trap.
Now, theyβll want to put up statues like that even more.
Too badβ¦
This is not their first rodeo. The same thing happened a while back with Germany and Japan kept pressuring them to remove it:
Fuck off. These are independent nations where history is actually taught and applied correctly, contrary to Japan.
As a Chinese (you know the context), my opinion about the Japanese invasion, and all things related, including comfort women, has always been: we should always remember the history, for it teaches us a worthless lesson. The lesson is not hatred, but that peace is priceless. War is bad. War crimes and all other kinds of human rights abuses are not acceptable.
If this becomes a consensus, then the invader and the victim would not have any reason to avoid talking about such history, because we are learning the same lesson.
I said this to my fellow Chinese who keep using the Japanese invasion as excuses to incite anti-Japan sentiments and hatred (you know what Iβm talking about). And now I say the same thing to the ambassador.
I have absolutely no problem with the erection of a statue Iβm just genuinely curious why NZ? Did they have something to do with that history?
NGOs that stir up controversy like this cause blowback for all immigrants. No one likes their country being used as a political soapbox.
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Standard LDP/Nippon Kaigi diplomacy – throw a fit whenever anyone proposes anything to do with Japanese war crimes.
Weird thing to do in NZ. Would be like building a statue in Japan to memorialize the impact of British colonialism on NZ Maori.
Hahah classic. You know what else could jeopardize diplomatic relations? Having comfort women
Lack of acknowledgement could damage diplomacy a lot more than a statue.
Oh no. Anyway.
I love Japan, but they should make the statue even bigger. Japan loves to hide its history.
I don’t understand why they are so stern about this. When I lived in Busan, in front of the Japanese embassy there was always protests and banners because of this behaviour.
It is not like they don’t know how to fake bow and “moushiwakegozaimasen” their way out of fiery situations.
If you donβt want to be criticised, maybe donβt create a systematic kidnap and rape industry.
Aussie here. Why can the Japanese government never accept or acknowledge the atrocities and war crimes/crimes against humanity they committed in WW2?
I used to do Japanese language lessons, my teacher was a lovely lady from Osaka in her 30s. It wasn’t until she went to my city’s museum that she learnt that Japan has fought Australia in WW2 and that they had bombed some of our cities. She had no idea. We lost tens of thousands of young men fighting in the jungles of the Pacific against Japan who were the aggressors. We were the second largest contribution of Allied forces in the Pacific theatre after the US, and she literally had never heard about it. I was kind of shocked.
I just don’t understand why the government can’t own up to wrongdoing. When others can. For example, Australia fought in the Vietnam War. We never should have been there in the first place, we committed war crimes and we lost. But this is all acknowledged. And as a result, the Vietnamese government allow us to have a war memorial in their country and they have even gifted us items from the war to have on display at war museums and memorials.
Why can’t Japan just take the L like grown up and move on?
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Can I like still visit Japan one day. I really like attack on titan and want to see the wall
It’s maddening how Japan is trying to make comfort women not known by forcing other country’s hands by telling them they are risking diplomatic relationship, but all they are doing is further spreading this whole comfort women information to the mass, most whom has never even heard of this by making a big deal out of it.
Streisand effect of this is just absolutely fucking hilarious
If anyone wonders why the current Japanese government seens more right wing than usual, consider [where the current prime minister came from](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nippon_Kaigi).
Itβs a touchy subject. How about a dis-comfort statue instead?
Japan is wrong for whitewashing its history but why is it that Koreans like to do this statue campaign everywhere even in places like NZ that has virtually nothing to do with the issue? I think itβs doing more harm than good. It gives off this desperate anti-Japan vibes. Plus SK gov has failed to pass on the compensation money to the victims for decades. The organisation that was advocating for comfort women in SK was also involved in corruption scandals. Then there is also the issue of La Dai Han in Vietnam which SK also hasnβt fully reckoned with. All in all, itβs a very chaotic non-productive political play. There is no moral integrity, nor goodwill from the South Korean side so itβs difficult for them to demand justice from Japan.
There’s so much bullshit in the world to actually get worked up about. Japan, this ain’t it.
Great job drawing attention the atrocities Japan inflicted, Mr Ambassador. You brought shame on your country, again.
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Kind of surprised the Japanese Ambassador decided it was a good idea to make this into an international news story instead of just ignoring it and hoping it would blow over.
can’t believe the audacity.Β
Why can’t Japanese ambassadors and politicians stop getting in their own way… There’s a reason China and Korea hate Japan, whereas France and England don’t hate Germany.
Just fucking admit the bad shit and move on, it’s literally better for everyone
Its time to give them some surprise now
Wow they’re really that stupid
Maybe should learn some history and diplomacy
Theyβre taking strategies from Trump!
And absolutely no one in the rest of Asia is surprised at this response
ππΌππΌ
Do it. Build the statue. Japan needs to get over it and accept the history they created.
Has there ever been any high ranking politician in Japan that has proposed the idea of owning up to their past? Like be sincere and try make international relations with affected Asian countries better?
Also does general public even care about such things at all or are too busy with their daily life? If they don’t care much at all then idk why the government is always so insincere like who are they even trying to please? Some small percentage of elderly who are stuck in the past?
I wonder if heβll put a [white slave women](https://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/214124-the-forgotten-story-of-nzs-pakeha-slaves.html) under the Maori slave masters right next to it.
In the 1965 settlement the Japanese government proposed that they DIRECTLY compensate individuals for the harm they inflicted during the occupation.
However the South Korean government countered by stating that they would handle dispersing the funds. The Japanese government then paid $500M in funds and soft loans. The text of the agreement stated that this was a full and final settlement of all compensation claims.
The South Korean government then used it for various projects of national importance with NO money going to individuals. The confidentiality clause also meant that Japan couldn’t highlight the fact that compensation intended for individuals had been paid but not dispersed.
A release of diplomatic docs in 2005 revealed that the South Korean government had misled their own people on the issue. Had South Korean victims received compensation in 1965, how much of this issue would still be bubbling away?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_Basic_Relations_Between_Japan_and_the_Republic_of_Korea#:~:text=In%20accordance%20to%20the%20treaty,and%20finally%20by%20this%20agreement.
I love the Japanese people, their culture, almost all of their history, but fucking hell they need to face up to the reality of their actions during the ShΕwa Period in World War II.
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Ehhh-
Should have shut his trap.
Now, theyβll want to put up statues like that even more.
Too badβ¦
This is not their first rodeo. The same thing happened a while back with Germany and Japan kept pressuring them to remove it:
https://thediplomat.com/2024/10/berlins-peace-statue-faces-removal-amid-japanese-pressure/
As long as comfort women statues are present, Japan is going to make a fuss about them until the country finally removes it.
I’m in NZ and heard nothing about this. I’m more concerned about the typhoon/cyclone bearing down on the country.
Yeah cry me a river. They tried the same bullshit in Berlin.
https://thediplomat.com/2024/10/berlins-peace-statue-faces-removal-amid-japanese-pressure/
Fuck off. These are independent nations where history is actually taught and applied correctly, contrary to Japan.
As a Chinese (you know the context), my opinion about the Japanese invasion, and all things related, including comfort women, has always been: we should always remember the history, for it teaches us a worthless lesson. The lesson is not hatred, but that peace is priceless. War is bad. War crimes and all other kinds of human rights abuses are not acceptable.
If this becomes a consensus, then the invader and the victim would not have any reason to avoid talking about such history, because we are learning the same lesson.
I said this to my fellow Chinese who keep using the Japanese invasion as excuses to incite anti-Japan sentiments and hatred (you know what Iβm talking about). And now I say the same thing to the ambassador.
I have absolutely no problem with the erection of a statue Iβm just genuinely curious why NZ? Did they have something to do with that history?
NGOs that stir up controversy like this cause blowback for all immigrants. No one likes their country being used as a political soapbox.
Anyone here needs money?? No strings attached if you genuinely need it send a Dm let me know
Standard LDP/Nippon Kaigi diplomacy – throw a fit whenever anyone proposes anything to do with Japanese war crimes.
Weird thing to do in NZ. Would be like building a statue in Japan to memorialize the impact of British colonialism on NZ Maori.
Hahah classic. You know what else could jeopardize diplomatic relations? Having comfort women
Lack of acknowledgement could damage diplomacy a lot more than a statue.
Oh no. Anyway.
I love Japan, but they should make the statue even bigger. Japan loves to hide its history.
I don’t understand why they are so stern about this. When I lived in Busan, in front of the Japanese embassy there was always protests and banners because of this behaviour.
It is not like they don’t know how to fake bow and “moushiwakegozaimasen” their way out of fiery situations.
If you donβt want to be criticised, maybe donβt create a systematic kidnap and rape industry.
Aussie here. Why can the Japanese government never accept or acknowledge the atrocities and war crimes/crimes against humanity they committed in WW2?
I used to do Japanese language lessons, my teacher was a lovely lady from Osaka in her 30s. It wasn’t until she went to my city’s museum that she learnt that Japan has fought Australia in WW2 and that they had bombed some of our cities. She had no idea. We lost tens of thousands of young men fighting in the jungles of the Pacific against Japan who were the aggressors. We were the second largest contribution of Allied forces in the Pacific theatre after the US, and she literally had never heard about it. I was kind of shocked.
I just don’t understand why the government can’t own up to wrongdoing. When others can. For example, Australia fought in the Vietnam War. We never should have been there in the first place, we committed war crimes and we lost. But this is all acknowledged. And as a result, the Vietnamese government allow us to have a war memorial in their country and they have even gifted us items from the war to have on display at war museums and memorials.
Why can’t Japan just take the L like grown up and move on?
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Can I like still visit Japan one day. I really like attack on titan and want to see the wall
It’s maddening how Japan is trying to make comfort women not known by forcing other country’s hands by telling them they are risking diplomatic relationship, but all they are doing is further spreading this whole comfort women information to the mass, most whom has never even heard of this by making a big deal out of it.
Streisand effect of this is just absolutely fucking hilarious
If anyone wonders why the current Japanese government seens more right wing than usual, consider [where the current prime minister came from](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nippon_Kaigi).
Itβs a touchy subject. How about a dis-comfort statue instead?
Japan is wrong for whitewashing its history but why is it that Koreans like to do this statue campaign everywhere even in places like NZ that has virtually nothing to do with the issue? I think itβs doing more harm than good. It gives off this desperate anti-Japan vibes. Plus SK gov has failed to pass on the compensation money to the victims for decades. The organisation that was advocating for comfort women in SK was also involved in corruption scandals. Then there is also the issue of La Dai Han in Vietnam which SK also hasnβt fully reckoned with. All in all, itβs a very chaotic non-productive political play. There is no moral integrity, nor goodwill from the South Korean side so itβs difficult for them to demand justice from Japan.
There’s so much bullshit in the world to actually get worked up about. Japan, this ain’t it.
Great job drawing attention the atrocities Japan inflicted, Mr Ambassador. You brought shame on your country, again.
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