How to start a fight by using the wrong word for “you” in Japanese – a case study

https://logmi.jp/main/social_economy/25539

This scenario often comes up in discussions of learners but it very much applies to natives too. This hilarious encounter happened between Sakurai Makoto, an anti-Korean nationalist and Family Mart manager, and Hashimoto, the mayor of Osaka.

At first, Sakurai does try to be slightly formal, though he accuses the mayor of cosplaying and not standing up for Japanese people against the Korean menace.

桜井:君、NHKとしての誇り無いの? 遊びに来てんの? コスプレ? それ。仕事で来てるんでしょ? じゃあ答える義務があるんだよ。特にNHKの場合は公共放送と言って、我々国民から金をむしり取ってるでしょ? 教えていただけます? なぜ一番肝心の、日本人へのヘイトスピーチを許さないって部分を切ったの? NHKを代表して堂々と言いなさよ。

Soon, though, he starts using harsher language, like あんた, a brusque form of 貴方. Hashimoto doesn't appreciate this.

桜井:あんたが言い出したことだろ。

橋下:「あんた」じゃねーだろ。早く。

Sakurai, ever the diplomat, then escalates to お前.

桜井:「お前」でいいのか? じゃあ。

橋下:……。

Soon all manner of civility has broken down.

桜井:朝鮮人を批判するってことがいけないって言ってるわけ?

橋下:お前な……(笑)。

桜井:お前って言うなよ!

橋下:うるせえお前。「お前」だよ。

桜井:ちょっと待てよ! なんだよそれは!

Bodyguards then intercede, leading Sakurai to call for a fight and doubt his masculinity.

桜井:お前それでも男かよ!

橋下:座れ。

桜井:こうやって守られてさ。

橋下:座れ。勘違いすんなよお前。

桜井:そちらこそね、勘違いしないでもらえるか?

橋下:お前な……(笑)。勘違いすんなよ。

To the disappointment of fans of yakuza films, Hashimoto declines the offer of a duel of honour.

桜井:だったらやってみろよ! 1vs1で! なんだこの警備は。人に命守ってもらわなきゃなにも出来ないんだったら、最初から言うな!

橋下:大阪でお前な、そういう発言止めろ。

The argument goes on for some time, before Hashimoto, ironically, tells Sakurai to "帰れ".

Cases like this are why all learners should learn rude language. Even if you have no interest in crime films or vulgar comedians you may still come across this sort of exchange in political news.

by LutyForLiberty

7 comments
  1. The fact that I can read enough of this to kinda understand what’s going on is both pleasing and hilarious

  2. I have no great love for Hashimoto and 日本維新の会 (the political party he started that now has a huge presence in Osaka) but at least he’s a serious politician and a reasonably intelligent human being. Sakurai is just a fucking troll who brings literally nothing of value to society.

    Anyway, this a good reminder that what people call ‘anime Japanese’ (and are doing so even in this thread) is really nothing of the sort and that Japanese people, being human beings, can be perfectly blunt and/or rude if the situation calls for it (and it’s simply that most beginning learners won’t find themselves in that situation).

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