Hi everyone! I just graduated from my computer science program, and I recently got a full time job in Japan. My salary is above 5.5 mil yen and I have savings in USD, but just from age and coming into the workforce straight from graduation, it's a genuinely a modest amount lol. I really like my role, it is a legit tech role, so in terms of career, I'll still get good software experience.
I'm really nervous on how my life is going to pan out because I'm moving internationally at a young age. It was hard for me to find a full time job in the US (and I'm also worried about some political issues as well, but that is besides the point), but I can't deny that I'd probably be getting paid a lot more in the US.
Did I make a big mistake? A lot of people have been spooking me about how I won't be able to save for my 30's, and that's what my 20's are for, and so on. A lot of my friends have been getting full time jobs in the US recently, and hearing about all their salaries and bonuses — it's hard not to compare lol
Has anyone else had experience on moving to Tokyo young? Did you end up staying, or leaving? Did you regret it? If you did, was it because of the salary?
Thanks! 🙂
Edit: Thanks for everyone's replies so far! I should have mentioned this originally, but the reason I applied in the first place is because I went to Tokyo for 4 months on a school exchange trip LOL so I do have experience living there, or just not being just a tourist there.
by Consistent-Virus6658
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If you just need validation, you’ll be fine I think. 2-4years in you will probably find out if this is the place for you and then you could go back to US if you wanted – finding a job wouldn’t be so hard with experience on hand. Tech jobs in the US pay enough to create a pool of “savings for your 30s” even if you enter the market at a later stage of your 20s.
There is a near-zero chance you will ever make as much as your friends back home. In contrast to the US, salaries here are low, raises are low and require time investment to earn, and bonuses can be cut at a moment’s notice.
It’s best just to forgot about the money and consider what else Japan, and Tokyo especially, has to offer. Investing financially into your future is important, but you don’t really need to be concerned with that in your 20s.. at the very least, you’ll be contributing to a pension fund which you can withdraw if you decide to leave Japan before retirement.
I moved at 22 right after college and stayed for 10 years. I had no job and no plan. Just wanted an adventure. I left because I got a great offer I “couldn’t refuse” to move to Switzerland. Been here ever since. Still visit Japan to see family for a month per year or so.
Whether it all “makes sense” for you is something only you can decide. I absolutely would have shriveled up and died if I’d stayed in the US. Looking back now long term I can also confidently say that at least in my case it had zero negative impact on my earning potential.
But that is largely a luck game anyway. Opportunities come and go. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. The only thing I would maybe change about my decisions is I think I would have tried to keep better track of the usb drive with Y5000 of bitcoin that I “invested” in in late 2010 during grad school…
Honestly, I think it is chill. You get international experience, you got a job straight after graduation, and will have substantial work experience when things get better.
Also, you get bonuses in full-time jobs so that go to your savings if necessary.
Sounds like your main concern is money, and you’re not at all thinking about what daily life in Japan is like or how it differs from the US. Unless you’re highly interested in Japanese culture, don’t go.
I changed careers at 42 from teaching to tech and now work near Tokyo. I think you’ll be happy with your decision. You’re still young and will be building up a good resume here.
I am also having an offer in jp for sw engineer about 7.5M and I’m 29.
Considering take it or not as there is a 40% pay cut after tax… but I really want to try it out.
I think this sounds like an amazing experience, but you do have to accept that financially, you’ll be behind your peers in the US. It’s a tradeoff.
Personally, I would only go, but only for a couple years. Software engineering earning potential in the US is just way higher
As you know, tech roles are tough to find in the US now. Yes, in theory you could make a lot more in the US, but what would that realistically look like? Rejecting the role you got, and spending a couple weeks or a couple months unemployed looking for a job? I think you shouldn’t worry about comparing your future to a future that doesn’t actually exist and try to make the most out of the one that you have. Like you said, the experience will be good to have for your resume and you can always come back if you feel like it didn’t work out the way you wanted.
That salary is abysmally low in comparison to the US. If money is your concern, stay in the US.
However I had a similar choice 6 years ago when I graduated with a bachelor’s in CS and Japanese. If money wasn’t an issue, I would have really regretted not going.
If you do go, get at least a year experience. Quitting earlier than a year will look pretty bad to recruiters here, and the junior market won’t improve in a year here. I would recommend getting 2 years experience there, but that could be a stretch if you hate it there.
Understand that you will not have much money, and you’ll be missing a financial headstart that some of your tech peers may have, but when applying to jobs here you’ll be able to catch up quickly enough that it won’t matter by retirement age.
I’ll say that I really wish I have that opportunity right now. But I’m a lot more financially stable now so I’ve got the privilege to say that.
Edit: Any debate about going is contingent on you getting a job offer in the US. If you can’t do that, then job>no job, and you should go.
Impressive ,how you landed a Job in Japan, of all places, with such little experience ? I reckon you must be nearly natively fluent or japanese by ancestry right ?
Can you speak Japanese?
Sounds like you are about to do your 20s in hard mode. If you’re up for the challenge, do it. 30-45 are your big money making years anyhow.
do it. do it for all of us who couldn’t. you owe it to us. haha. would do this in a heartbeat. you’ll have the best time of your life.
Money is something, but not everything (I say this as someone in their 40s an industry who COULD be making bank if I chose to ignore my morals, and is instead financially comfortable in a role that contributes positively to the world).Â
I’d suggest look at the job as a whole package: salary + experience of living overseas as if it were an employee benefit. If the adventure appeals enough to compensate for a lower salary, go for it! A few years in your 20s on lower pay can be made up for, and the international experience will look good on a resume later.Â
how did you find a job, what website did you use
I think it’s good start for someone fresh out of college.
You’re young, and single. There are worse places to start your adult life at, and doesn’t have to be permanent. come, get some life/work experience and move back if you want.
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