In 18 years he never got to request PR? If he planned on staying in Japan, why not ask for PR?
I can understand not naturalizing, especially if he wanted to retain Indian nationality. It’s a bigger challenge. but I really don’t get why you wouldn’t apply for a PR? It says he bought a house, wouldn’t your loan rates be better if you have PR?
Feel sorry for the guy and his family. Japanese policy is forcing the legal hardworking out but still keeping the “real estate investors” and other less reputable business around. Pity.
How did he manage to stay 18 years just on a BMV?
He could have applied for citizenship or even a PR if he had sufficient income through his business?
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Why didn’t he apply for PR? Maybe he never got a 3 or 5 year visa but only received single year renewals. It isn’t just “10 years here and apply,” but “10 years and hold the longest length visa possible under visa category, with more than 1 year remaining when apply.”
For all the people saying “why didn’t he apply for PR”? I know a guy who’s been here on a Business Manager visa for years and every single year has only ever gotten another 1 year visa, purposely making applying for PR an impossibility. These assholes really don’t want us.
Wish it said which of the requirements he failed. Speculation seems to be the N2 language requirement.
He couldn’t apply for pr after all this time? What did he think would happen when he retires anyway?
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Every time these pop up people with no clue chime in with “why didn’t he PR bro?”. It is very common to meet all the requirements of PR and still get rejected because of however they felt on the day.
The current business manager visa requirements are completely unhinged. Business don’t just float that much cash doing nothing.
I saw this on instagram. It was so sad to see the number of people assuming he deserved this outcome :/ it’s such a shame.
I guarantee his income tax never fullfilled the requirements for PR.
Money talks. If foreigners with a lot of money * the billionaire level in USD * then even the jap gov will send an invite to apply for the visa!
30 years to naturalize, not sure why he did not do that earlier. Now Japan is just closing the loophole and he started whining.
Getting PR is not difficult. There is obviously more to this story. Reporting loses for tax benefits, not paying pension, etc Guy is trying to play the victim card but he is obviously not disclosing everything.
So many people blaming this guy for not applying for permanent residency when the real question is “why would the Japanese government do this?”. It’s cruel and senseless. 30 years, nice restaurant, kids are all basically Japanese and don’t know India. It’s as cruel as what we’re seeing in the US right now.
> Business plans now require professional certification and authorities have increased checks on tax records and office legitimacy.
Sounds rough but I suspect there’s more nuance to this story. My understanding is the policy intent of these visas is to encourage genuine investment and local employment, not indefinitely support multiple generations of one family through a very small low-turnover business.
The fact applications reportedly collapsed after tighter scrutiny probably suggests this wasn’t just a random vibe shift either. Immigration likely concluded some businesses were technically meeting the minimum paperwork thresholds without really operating at the scale the visa category was intended for. If revenue and employment figures suddenly jump the moment rules tighten, officials are obviously going to start asking harder questions. Harsh timing perhaps, but 30 years is also a very long time not to pursue PR or citizenship if Japan was intended to be the permanent plan.
FAFO. you had three decades to apply for PR, and yet you chose not to. Simply because you wanted to game the system. Read the full context folks
A glance at Western countries makes it clear that having too many foreign residents is not a good thing. Currently, every developed nation is tightening immigration controls in an effort to reduce the number of immigrants.
Japan is simply doing the same. The situation up until now was abnormal. In the small town where I live, there are more than 20 Indian and Nepalese restaurants within a 2-kilometer radius. No matter how you look at it, that’s abnormal.
It’s perfectly fine to make naturalization and permanent residency requirements extremely strict.
India is the homeland of Indians. It’s only natural for them to return to India.
Don’t you think it would be abnormal if a stranger you didn’t know showed up at your house and refused to leave? If a stranger from India suddenly showed up at your house and stayed put for three or four days, wouldn’t you find that annoying?
It is right to correct this situation. Even in the small town where you live, you don’t need 20 or 30 Indian or Nepalese restaurants, do you?
In the city where I live, there isn’t a single restaurant serving Canadian, Swiss, or Dutch cuisine. There isn’t a single restaurant serving Belgian, Polish, Georgian, or Irish cuisine either.
Having 20 or 30 Indian restaurants and 20 or 30 Chinese restaurants is not diversity.
It’s an 100% abnormal situation.
I have a question for everyone in the UK. Haven’t the increasing number of barbershops run by Turkish Kurds(?) in the UK raised concerns about money laundering? Global connections are becoming more complex and increasingly baffling. Last week, a British man named Muhammad was arrested for attempting to smuggle 200 kg of drugs into Japan. The street value was 11.4 billion yen. Two Nepalese men living in Japan were arrested as accomplices and recipients.
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In 18 years he never got to request PR? If he planned on staying in Japan, why not ask for PR?
I can understand not naturalizing, especially if he wanted to retain Indian nationality. It’s a bigger challenge. but I really don’t get why you wouldn’t apply for a PR? It says he bought a house, wouldn’t your loan rates be better if you have PR?
Feel sorry for the guy and his family. Japanese policy is forcing the legal hardworking out but still keeping the “real estate investors” and other less reputable business around. Pity.
How did he manage to stay 18 years just on a BMV?
He could have applied for citizenship or even a PR if he had sufficient income through his business?
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Why didn’t he apply for PR? Maybe he never got a 3 or 5 year visa but only received single year renewals. It isn’t just “10 years here and apply,” but “10 years and hold the longest length visa possible under visa category, with more than 1 year remaining when apply.”
For all the people saying “why didn’t he apply for PR”? I know a guy who’s been here on a Business Manager visa for years and every single year has only ever gotten another 1 year visa, purposely making applying for PR an impossibility. These assholes really don’t want us.
Wish it said which of the requirements he failed. Speculation seems to be the N2 language requirement.
He couldn’t apply for pr after all this time? What did he think would happen when he retires anyway?
[deleted]
Every time these pop up people with no clue chime in with “why didn’t he PR bro?”. It is very common to meet all the requirements of PR and still get rejected because of however they felt on the day.
The current business manager visa requirements are completely unhinged. Business don’t just float that much cash doing nothing.
I saw this on instagram. It was so sad to see the number of people assuming he deserved this outcome :/ it’s such a shame.
I guarantee his income tax never fullfilled the requirements for PR.
Money talks. If foreigners with a lot of money * the billionaire level in USD * then even the jap gov will send an invite to apply for the visa!
30 years to naturalize, not sure why he did not do that earlier. Now Japan is just closing the loophole and he started whining.
Getting PR is not difficult. There is obviously more to this story. Reporting loses for tax benefits, not paying pension, etc Guy is trying to play the victim card but he is obviously not disclosing everything.
So many people blaming this guy for not applying for permanent residency when the real question is “why would the Japanese government do this?”. It’s cruel and senseless. 30 years, nice restaurant, kids are all basically Japanese and don’t know India. It’s as cruel as what we’re seeing in the US right now.
> Business plans now require professional certification and authorities have increased checks on tax records and office legitimacy.
Sounds rough but I suspect there’s more nuance to this story. My understanding is the policy intent of these visas is to encourage genuine investment and local employment, not indefinitely support multiple generations of one family through a very small low-turnover business.
The fact applications reportedly collapsed after tighter scrutiny probably suggests this wasn’t just a random vibe shift either. Immigration likely concluded some businesses were technically meeting the minimum paperwork thresholds without really operating at the scale the visa category was intended for. If revenue and employment figures suddenly jump the moment rules tighten, officials are obviously going to start asking harder questions. Harsh timing perhaps, but 30 years is also a very long time not to pursue PR or citizenship if Japan was intended to be the permanent plan.
FAFO. you had three decades to apply for PR, and yet you chose not to. Simply because you wanted to game the system. Read the full context folks
A glance at Western countries makes it clear that having too many foreign residents is not a good thing. Currently, every developed nation is tightening immigration controls in an effort to reduce the number of immigrants.
Japan is simply doing the same. The situation up until now was abnormal. In the small town where I live, there are more than 20 Indian and Nepalese restaurants within a 2-kilometer radius. No matter how you look at it, that’s abnormal.
It’s perfectly fine to make naturalization and permanent residency requirements extremely strict.
India is the homeland of Indians. It’s only natural for them to return to India.
Don’t you think it would be abnormal if a stranger you didn’t know showed up at your house and refused to leave? If a stranger from India suddenly showed up at your house and stayed put for three or four days, wouldn’t you find that annoying?
It is right to correct this situation. Even in the small town where you live, you don’t need 20 or 30 Indian or Nepalese restaurants, do you?
In the city where I live, there isn’t a single restaurant serving Canadian, Swiss, or Dutch cuisine. There isn’t a single restaurant serving Belgian, Polish, Georgian, or Irish cuisine either.
Having 20 or 30 Indian restaurants and 20 or 30 Chinese restaurants is not diversity.
It’s an 100% abnormal situation.
I have a question for everyone in the UK. Haven’t the increasing number of barbershops run by Turkish Kurds(?) in the UK raised concerns about money laundering? Global connections are becoming more complex and increasingly baffling. Last week, a British man named Muhammad was arrested for attempting to smuggle 200 kg of drugs into Japan. The street value was 11.4 billion yen. Two Nepalese men living in Japan were arrested as accomplices and recipients.
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